Typology is an example given which symbolises or has a parallel meaning behind.
An example is a city. It can also mean the world, or the seas can mean the mass of people. This can extend into patterns of behaviour that are repeated in different ways and examples elsewhere through the bible but still giving the same theme.
There are many typologies of the rapture and many other things that protestant exegesis misses out. The Baptists used to be aware of this understanding. Splurgen was right, he said "when the Baptist begins to compromise the word of God they will lose this understanding" Unfortunately this has become true. Each typology gives us greater understanding to how things will be in the end. Each is a pattern and each typological example conglomerately provides us with a clearer understanding of how things will be at the end of the age.
Noah and the flood.
Lot, Sodom and Gomorrah Rehab
Moses and Egypt. Enoch.
Moses and Elijah. Daniel
Abraham's servant. Song of Solomon
300AD Wars of the Jews.
The five foolish virgins / song of Solomon.
Noah and the flood.
Noah and his family is a typology of the church in our times and further ahead. We can
conclude this because the bible is seen in Hebrew eyes as a loaf of bread. The end is like the beginning. Jesus also says ' "as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be at the end of the age."
We have a world that has gone beyond the rotten apple stage - a stage that God cannot allow to continue. To do so would have endangered the existence of humanity.
Noah and his family were the only righteous ones left. This is incredible. The minority will only make it out of here. When there is a great falling away there will only be a minority left. Judgement was imminent and a way of escape had been planned by the Lord. It required His obedience though. When the rain came it was too late for the unrighteous. It will be too late for the five foolish virgins, the bride who was not ready in the song of Solomon and for Lots wife. It will be too late for the luke warm, the fence sitters. Judgement happens and God seals the door. God seals those who are His and He lifts them up above the waters. The same will happen with the church at the end.
Lot, Sodom and Gomorrah.
Here again we have a world that is in a state of absolute rebellion. The degree of that rebellion we see by the extent that Lot went to have the judgement of God thwarted on those people. The same way God will allow his testing on those at the end of the age until He has to finally destroy them. Lot in this situation is vexed in soul. The environment around him is taking its toll. He basically is putting up with a lot of evil. God knows and intervenes by sending two angels symbolic of the two witnesses in revelation and the spies in Jericho.
The depravity of that time was to the state that the gay community at that time would have done anything to rape these two angelic visitors. Lot even offers his daughters to them indicative of desperation. How can a father do that, I've asked myself.
One begins to understand the magnitude of fear, of aggression at that time. So God blinded them and still they persisted. Unleavened bread is cooked for a meal, In other words those who feed on proper food; proper theology will be kept in the light, kept in the truth. Those who are honest with God, who really want to follow Him will be guided and protected. The time came when God had to judge. Things had got that bad He had to destroy and remove that element out of His creation. Here Lot and his family were not kept in the place of judgement and protected but taken out of it. The church will also be taken out of the judgement that will come upon the whole world. The church will be taken out also.
Jericho was a city that God told Joshua to destroy. Cities are always a typology for the world. Here Israel is told to do specific things. They are to march round the city several times. They are to keep silent for half an hour then blow their trumpets. This is a similar situation in revelation. There are several seals of Judgement; there is a time of silence and a time of trumpet blowing. Israel here typifies the angelic host.
In the city we have a Gentile woman, like Ruth in the book of Ruth they each typify the Gentile Bride. Rehap's heart is towards God. In a failing world God reveals His grace and the gentile woman responds to the call. She is told to hang a scarlet cloth outside her window and therefore avoiding Gods judgement. A similar situation happens when the Jews are told
to sprinkle blood on the door posts avoiding the judgements put on Egypt at that time. Like the blood, the scarlet signifies the blood of Christ.
Another interesting thing that happens with typological events like this is that two people are used to inform or spy. Here Rehab is informed by the two spies and given the opportunity to be saved. God knew ahead of time. He knows who are His and who will be saved. The city of Jericho is destroyed and Rehab is spared. The world will be destroyed and the church will be spared. She is kept away from the Judgement. In fact she and her family are told to keep indoors during the attack outside. This is the same with the bride in Isaiah where she is kept in the chamber till the indignation is passed. In other accounts they are kept away or hidden from the judgement outside.
Moses and Egypt.
Moses is like a Saviour to the people of Israel, like Christ is to people world wide. Again here Egypt symbolizes the world. The Pharaoh is an antichrist figure and it is in this world that the Jews are persecuted. But the time comes when Gods judgement comes on this world. They are protected from Judgements that come on the world. There is a time when they are removed. They are led out by Moses, and Jesus leads us out of this world before it is judged by God.
The man-child escapes out of the pursuing dragon he is caught up. Being the body of Christ we are caught up.
Enoch was a prophet who walked with God and he never died. He also was caught up. These caught up examples all allude to the church being caught up. Enoch was caught up in a Chariot of fire. A vessel anointed or sealed by God like the ark. The Chariot was a flaming vessel speaking of the spirit of God. The ark was pitched in and out with tar also representing the Holy Spirit. God uses substances to typify the H/S. Water, oils, wind and flames are some of the examples that typify the Holy Spirit. These vessels typify the Church. So a church full of the H/S will be caught up.
Joseph typifies Christ again like other figures in the bible. As we move along with these types the church is always presented in some shape or form and therefore can be seen as an example or pattern for the present and the future. In one of these scenarios we are presented with a situation where Joseph reveals himself to his brothers. The Gentiles are asked to leave the room before he does. This depicts Christ revealing himself to Israel at the time in the tribulation period when the remnant of Israel's blindness is removed and they looked upon the one whom they had pierced. It's this revelation with their repentance and mourning that results in the return of the Lord at the end of the tribulation. This is not the return of the Lord for his church. The church is removed before this time the same way the gentiles and people are removed from the room in the palace where Joseph reveals himself to his brothers.
In Daniel we again have a similar situation. Daniel here typifying the church is out of the country when Meshach, Shadrach and Abed-nego, who are in a situation depicting the end of the tribulation. The three of them symbolise Israel who are being preserved through this fiery time of testing where the Lord meets them in the furnace. The fiery trial of testing is the period through the whole time during the tribulation. Daniel is not in the furnace with them but away from the Judgement as the church will be away from this time a well.
There are many examples without me going into all of them.
Two I particularly like are in the Song of Solomon and in the historical records of the Wars of the Jews.
The Song of Solomon has two scenarios of a lover that was ready for when the king came and one when she wasn't. The picture presented of the five foolish virgins also gives us an account of the same example. Five were ready and five weren't. Matth2 5:1- 13 God knows who are ready, He knows who aren't and He warns those who aren't. It gives an account of what happens to the bride in both of these occasions. The lover in the Song of Solomon who was not ready had her hands covered in myrrh, a symbol of readiness for persecution. "The watchmen beat her" SoS 5:7 The five foolish virgins were left out in the dark. Darkness or night time also represents the tribulation time. When did the thief come? During the night Jesus here represents the thief. The thief steals away the bride.
The Wars of the Jews.
Even though it was 300 AD the historical records tell us a story of when the Jews were surrounded by armies. The armies had cut all food and water going in and out of the city. It got so bad that people where eating the afterbirth from new born babies to stay alive. The worst people were the religious hypocrites who were cruel to their own people. This gives a picture of how bad things will get towards the end.
A remnant of the people in this city knew of the promises of God and on a particular night an angel opened a gate that would normally take eight men to open and they walked out and up Mount Zion. For some reason the army that night went elsewhere. It must be understood that God so easily can blind the eyes of that army also. He has specific ways of doing things and there will be a reason why God did it that way too. Maybe it's to say that He will keep our enemies away from those who obey Him at their time of rescue. Again this remnant typifies the church in a time of distress in the world. She is removed before the worst part of it. There comes a time she is taken out, and notice, not only out but up as well.
Direct scriptures relating to the removal of the Church.
"Come into the wedding chamber until the indignation be passed". Ezekiel
"Because you have kept my commandments I will also keep you away from the hour of trial that will come upon the whole world." Rev 3:10
Matt 24;22. "Had those days not been cut short" cut short - "kolobo" means to amputate. It is used in reference to the cutting of the days being short. This is another term for the rapture. In this context it's also dealing with the removal of the bad part of the body from the good.
The bad will be removed from the good but in the way the good are removed from the earth and the bad get left here. Then God will judge the earth and all its inhabitants there in. This in itself is an act of mercy. If he didn't do this no man would survive. This begins the day of the Lord.
Dan 12:7 - At the shattering of the holy people. This is a time of persecution on Gods people, including the nation of Israel, but before it really gets bad an escape happens. Our God is not a sadist He cares enough for His bride to rescue her at the right time. The most important aspect of this though is that He can not exact His judgement on the earth while His bride is here. To keep in pattern the Lord needs to keep to this for many reasons. He will allow persecution up to a point to test us.
The references to the return of the Lord "like a thief"
A thief comes to steal, to take away. He comes at any time, suddenly. Relevant scriptures, Matt 24:43, 1Thes 5:4, 2 Pet. 3:10, Rev. 3:3, Rev 16:15
2 CO 12:2 Paul is symbolic of the church. In fact similar to Christ he also gets caught up. (Job 5:19) "In the 6th day I will preserve thee and the 7th I will deliver you."
"Be always on watch and pray that you may be able to escape all that is coming upon the world that you will be able to stand before the son of man." (Luke 21:36)
The bible can be seen as a loaf of bread. The end looks the same as the other end. This is how things will work out. How things began will be how they end. The same applies to events. For example
"As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the end"
Before things got really bad as in Lots and Noah's time, not to say they were bad enough, Lot and Noah were taken out. There worlds were judged before things got way out of hand. This was an act of Gods mercy. Some scientists believe that given the state of corruption going on at that time the seed of man would have been changed, which would have been detriment to the whole human race. God's intervention stopped that. In the same way at the end of the world the same situation occurs. Matt 24.22 "unless the days were cut short no man would survive."
How things were in Jesus' time will be how it is when He returns the second time. We go back to go forward.
Looking at the arrangement of things that happened when Jesus was here will be how things end up. This is important because it helps clear up misunderstandings such as some dispensational views. Not to say all dispensational views are wrong. However the accepted view that when the Holy Spirit is taken from the world then we are taken too. In looking at the order back towards the ascension of Jesus we have the Lord going up.
Then the Holy Spirit is given to the church and the world. The spirit was already indwelling in the disciples (John 20:22). The spirit was outpoured later at Pentecost on the church. The church became empowered to convict the world. The reverse happens. The Holy Spirit is taken from the world and is not there to convict it. It still indwells in the believers and eventually we are taken up as Jesus went up. Until there the Holy Spirit reserves His people. In (Job 5:9) "In six tribulations He will keep us, in the seven He will deliver us" Jacob Prasch a prominent teacher and speaker who is a messianic Jew believes the rapture will happen between the sixth and seventh seals in Revelation with valid reasons. A great multitude of people are in heaven at that time.
Remember the Holy Spirit is removed from restraining evil. This begins to usher in the great tribulation. Then when the bride is removed the Great tribulation begins
People need to know that to understand how the Lord is to return is to realise that in going backwards gives a pattern to how events will unfold.
This is evident not only in events that have taken place in the past but the gentile age as well.
Typologies of the Night.
There are a number of examples where the removal of the church happens during the night.
THE NIGHT ALWAYS TYPIFIES THE GREAT TRIBULATION TIME. The study in itself
shows clear examples of the legitimacy of the bride's removal during the tribulation time. Jacob wrestling with the angel.
Jacob types Israel and is thus called. Israel will go through the tribulation. She wrestles the angel through the night. Messianic saved Jews will not go through the entire night as Jacob does. They are part of the bride and will be taken during the tribulation where the nation of Israel will go through the tribulation. This is to refine and bring the nation to a place where she is placed in a situation that results in the people who do not believe Jesus as the messiah will see that He is and cry out to Him resulting in His return at the end of the tribulation. This is why satan tries to destroy Israel before that time through opposing countries. He thinks by doing that it will prevent the return of the Lord.
We have the five foolish virgins. When did the bridegroom come? - during the night. They had oil for their lamps, a metaphor of the Holy Spirit (Mt 25:1)
Other examples where we see the Lord returning during the night are.
"He is coming like a thief in the night" (1 Thess. 5:2)
"His coming is in the 2nd or 3rd watch of the night.(Mat 25:1) '
"Watchman, watchman, how far is the night." (Is 21.11)
"Work while you have the light, for night will come when no man can work". (John. 9:4)
This subject usually is ignored by many Christians as they place it under the satanic label and that's that. In one respect we are right, I believe this subject should be raised as we are told to study to show ourselves approved. The Lord wants us informed, not ignorant of these matters. With the truth known it becomes a tool for evangelism and a warning to those who would like understanding of its increasing and future deception. It covers and envelopes many areas now. Films, toys, books groups, cults etc. . . . This subject becomes an issue because so many people believe it. Satan's machine of propaganda is working hard.
The continual sightings and emphasis by different prominent figures e.g. scientists, media, film directors, movie stars, etc is certainly doing its job. I have had talks with student school teachers who regard you as totally ignorant almost foolish to start revealing the aspects of the impossibility of space travel, the nonresponse to Seta's program and many other problems.
Just one example of the difficulty with space travel is the aspect of speed. The energy needed to propel a vessel the size of the shuttle would take the energy of 23,000,000 atomic bombs to reach only half the speed of light. The book "Alien Intrusion" by Garth Bates covers a lot of this and for any avid scientist or sceptic they will find the reality conclusive. The mere fact when you point out that they don't really have the evidence of experiential life let alone their visitations is not tolerated. The really good sightings and the sometimes related biological aspects of abductions may be left unanswered. Most are hoaxes. Most are seen by people who have been involved with the occult or demonic aspect at some level. This alone begins to beg the question. Without going too much into the physics, or reluctance to reveal themselves, the extraterrestrial life is something that can be searched for else where. I want only to point out it's relation to eschatological matters.
In my studies there seems to be some possible technology that makes levitation possible. The question is what you are going to use it for, a form of transportation.
Suffice to say there would be billions made from the technology. Spying - how about a platform or base that can go anywhere at any time. So what - there are many hidden bases? If they are using the magnetic fields of the earth then they will be earth bound. Another use is to use such devices as social manipulation tools. The aspect of distraction and the manipulation of societies from the truth would be possible.
It must be noted that many Christians who have had encounters of near abductions have, when presented with their abductees, when using the name of Jesus Christ have repelled their abductors. This leads to the conclusion that the agenda of these so called extraterrestrials is somewhat sinister. The spiritual aspect of Ufology is very real.
The ability of satan to disguise himself and every thing associated with him for the purpose of deception is real. We should never underestimate satan's ability to do this. I remember listening to a converted witch who talked about the ability to become invisible or how they could change into werewolves. The fact that the ability of witchcraft to break the laws of physics brings things into an interdimensional aspect. This gives weight to the spiritual ownership of this science.
This begins to add a whole new agenda. I have met new agers and spiritualists who believe the extraterrestrial visitations are in line with evolution. In my autobiography I mentioned about my awareness of how the new agers believe that when we reach the time for the next harmonic leap in evolution, at the age of Aquarius, the harmonic state of that will be too high in frequency for anything ignorant or lower intellect to exist and will simply disappear. I learnt this before I became a Christian and saw the counterfeit aspect to the Rapture of the Church.
I've always kept that in mind and from time to time it surfaces here and there. It is a common belief amongst new agers and spiritualists.
A few months ago a friend introduced me to an older woman, (Ursaler) who wanted some doors made to fit the Gap where the conservatory was. Her spiritual guide had said there was going to be an earthquake that week. The conservatory was removed as it was all glass.
While I was there she proceeded to inform me about the Galactic federation. A few months later I again bumped into Ursula (by the way the earthquake never happened) who almost grabbed me out of the street and this time informed me that the Galactic Federation had mother ships around the earth and at the right time are going to transport people on board. She genuinely believes this. No matter how hard I tried to tell her what was really going on she wouldn't listen.
Barbara Marciniak as do many other UFO/New Age prophets say, "The people who leave the planet during the time of earth changes do not fit in here any longer, and they are stopping the harmony of earth. When the time comes that perhaps 20 million people leave the planet at one time there will be a tremendous shift in consciousness for those who are remaining."
In Project World Education, a supposed channellar Ashtar to contactee Thelma Terrell, going by the name "Tuella" says this,
"Our rescue ships will be able to come in close enough in the twinkling of an eye to set the lifting beams in operation in a moment. And all over the globe where events warrant it, this will be the method of evacuation.
Mankind will be lifted, levitated shall we say, by the beams from our smaller ships. These smaller craft will in turn taxi the persons to the larger ships overhead, higher in the atmosphere, where there is ample space and quarters and supplies for millions of people.
... earth changes will be the primary factor in mass evacuation of this planet. There is method and great organization in a detailed plan already near completion for the purpose of
removing souls from this planet, in the event of catastrophic events making a rescue necessary.... The Great Evacuation will come upon the world suddenly. The flash of emergency events will be as lightning that flashes in the sky. So suddenly and so quick in it's happening that it is over almost before you are aware of its presence...."
Sounds familiar with the account in 1 Thessalonians 4:15 -18 doesn't it.
In this respect ufology certainly becomes relevant to eschatological matters.
The removal of the church completely from the earth.
There seems to be a deliberate attempt by some teachers to down play or argue the point that we will either be protected through the tribulation or be raptured at the end when the Lord returns to the earth. It's good that they prepare people for troubled times but I wonder if there is some sinister agenda behind it all. Reason being is, verses again are ignored that say and suggest other things. The character of God also needs to be questioned. The ability of Christians to be over comers in such a time is presumptive and satan knows who would fall away.
I've come across some pretty good ministries but wonder why they only go so far in their studies and therefore miss the truth. If they are listening to the Lord he would show them. Is what they have been shown enough? The Lord is into purity and allows grace yes but the grace is for the time allowed till they turn to the Lord for his guidance. Unless they allow the Lord to show them, they become agents of satan,s work. How demonically in spirit they are, determines this. Remember the fly spoils the ointment. When the last crumb of the sandwich is arsenic then the rest of the sandwich means nothing. I am saying this can be the case and not the norm. Leaders and teachers be mindful!
The many typologies and examples of the rapture else ware in my writings, show us that we are removed from or taken up. Understanding how these combined examples work under Hebrew exegesis we conclude that we are kept away from this period of time by being taken up... the harpozo.
The Issue of contradictions with the Bride, the tribulation saints, the wrath of God, the rapture and return and coming of God.
There are verses that appear to contradict each other around who and when the people of God are removed from the earth at the end of the age.
God does not contradict himself so what is being implied here.
It is evident that the wrath of God is a period of time that excludes the people of God.
On one hand we see the people of God being protected from the trouble of what's coming upon the earth.
Yet we are told that we will be taken out of these times of trouble. This implies that we must be in some aspect associated with the tribulation or not at all.
It's the in ability of teachers and pastors of not understanding these aspects that they stay away from teaching them, some entirely, some partially.
There seems to be a contradiction in relation to these saints and the bride.
Are they the same people?
We have a situation where the tribulation is before the rapture and the return of the lord or after. God doesn't contradict himself. Then what do we do with these verses.
It seems he returns for his bride yet comes to judge the world and at that time and the people of God are delivered.
Are the believers removed both in the same way? Are they the same people?
We have to view the word of God within the proper context and the correct meanings of the words.
Not only that but midraschic and typological principles have to be applied this can not be achieved through protestant exegesis. Hebrew exegesis is required to really understand these concepts.
So let as look at these verses that are contradictory.
(Mat 24:21 MKJV) for then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world to this time; no, nor ever shall be.
(Mat 24:29 MKJV) And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Joe 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
So at this point we see that these events described above happen after the Tribulation.
If the tribulation starts with the wrath of God we then have a contradiction.
If the Great Tribulation starts with the wrath of God we still find this contradictory. contradiction.
If the removal of the bride occurs when the lord comes and if the wrath of God begins the great tribulation we have a contradiction with verse Rev 7:14
"And I said to him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, These are the ones who came out of the great tribulation and have washed their robes, and have whitened them in the blood of the Lamb."
This then has a contradiction with all the preservation verses.
Question: Is the Wrath of God associated with the great tribulation.
I have copied this below as to me it is biblically sound from
"The Life Four Square church"
Revelation 16:1 (NKJV) Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, "Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth."
The is a time coming when God will judge the world for rejecting His Son and for sin. It will be a day of wrath and judgment. In the Bible, this time is descriptively called the Wrath of God (Col. 3:6; Rev. 14:9-10, 19; 15:1, 7; 16:1). In some passages, it is called the Day of the Lord (Joel 1:15; 2:1-11; 1 Thes. 5:1-9). It will be a day of vengeance when God's wrath will be expressed in the form of seven plagues poured out upon the earth. There will be much physical pain and trouble for the inhabitants of earth at that time. Some have taught that the plagues of God's wrath are part of the Great Tribulation. That is not the case according to the Bible (see the chapter explaining the difference between the Great Tribulation and the Wrath of God).
The seven plagues in the Book of Revelation constitute the outpouring of the Wrath of God (Rev. 6:17; 11:18 with the following references). Details of the seven plagues are first provided in Revelation 8:6-13, 9:1-21, and 11:15-19. The seven plagues are described a second time in Revelation 16:1-21. Notice that the plagues are poured out by angels of God (Rev. 8:6,10; 11:15; 16:1). Revelation 16:1 says, "Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, 'Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.'" These plagues described in the Book of Revelation are the outpouring of God's wrath upon a sinful world (Rev. 18:4, 8). Since the Great Tribulation is demonic persecution (under the direction of the Beast) rather than godly judgment, it should be clear that the seven plagues of God's wrath are not part of the Great Tribulation.
Failure to recognize that the same seven plagues are described twice in the Book of Revelation can lead to confusion about end-time events. Even though the plagues are described from slightly different view points, the two different descriptions for each plague can be compared to see that both descriptions apply to the same event. There is only one set of seven plagues, but they are described twice in the Book of Revelation. (See the chapter on the seven plagues of the Wrath of God for more information.)
Christians are not destined to suffer the Wrath of God (Rom. 5:9; 1 Thes. 5:9; Rev. 18:4). Through faith in Jesus, He has delivered us from the coming wrath (1 Thes. 1:9-10). Therefore, Christians will not suffer the Wrath of God.
The Beast and non-Christians will suffer terribly during the Wrath of God (Rom. 1:18; 2:5-9; Eph 5:3-7; Col. 3:5-6; Rev. 9:3-6; 16:9-11). Even though they refuse to repent, they will be forced to acknowledge that Jesus is the Lord of all (Rev. 9:20-21; 16:9, 11; 11:13; Rom. 14:11; Phil. 2:10-11). Since no one repents during the Wrath of God, it would appear that no one is saved during the Wrath of God (Acts 3:19; 11:18). Like the flood of Noah's days, the Wrath of God is a time of punishment, not a time of correction (Mat. 24:36-39; Gen. 6:5-8, 13, 17; Gen. 7:13-24).
The Wrath of God is a scriptural term referring to a specific period of time when God will punish the Beast and those who worship him (Rev. 14:9-11). This outpouring of God's wrath will take the form of seven plagues (Rev. 8:1-13; 9:1-21; 11:1-19; 15:1-21). The Wrath of God is sometimes called the Day of the Lord (Joel 1:15; 2:1-11; 1 Thes. 5:1-9).
Significance of the Wrath of God:
The Wrath of God is a time of punishment for the Beast and all those who worship him and take his mark during the Great Tribulation (Rev. 14:9-11). The Wrath of God is God's judgment upon sin and sinners (Rom. 1:18; 2:5-9; Eph 5:3-7; Col. 3:5-6).
Source of the Wrath of God:
The Wrath of God comes from God (Rom. 2:5-9; 2 Thes. 1:6-10; Rev. 15:6-7). It is performed by angels under His command (Rev. 8:1-2; 11:17-18; 15:6-8; 16:1).
Length of the Wrath of God:
The precise length of the Wrath of God is not given in the Bible. One of the plagues lasts five months (Rev. 9:5). Therefore the Wrath of God lasts at least five months.
Events Prior to the Wrath of God:
The Great Tribulation occurs before the Wrath of God (also see the Chronological Relationships chapter). Immediately after the Great Tribulation (but before the Wrath of God) certain signs will occur in the sun, moon, and stars (Mat. 24:29; Rev. 6:12-14). Also, Jesus will be seen by the people on earth as He returns to gather His people (Mat. 24:27, 30-21; Rev. 6:15-17).
Events of the Wrath of God:
The primary events associated with the Wrath of God are the seven plagues poured out in judgment upon the earth and its inhabitants (Rev. 8:6-13; 9:1-21; 11:15-19; 15:1; 16:1-21).
During the Wrath of God:
God's judgment and punishment will be poured out as seven plagues upon those who remain on the earth after the Rapture (Rev. 8:1-13; 9:1-21; 11:1-19; 15:1-21). God will be a shelter for His people (Joel 3:9-16).
Christians During the Wrath of God:
Most Christians will be in heaven during the Wrath of God (Rev. 7:9-17; 15:1-4). There will be 144,000 people who are sealed to protect them against the plagues (Rev. 7:1-8; 14:1-5). These will participate in the outpouring of the Wrath of God or possibly will witness against the people of the earth by explaining the reason for the plagues (Rev. 14:1-4). Two witnesses will also testify against the people during the Wrath of God (Rev. 11:3-13). The people of God will not suffer the plagues of the Wrath of God (Rom. 5:9; 1 Thes. 5:9; 1:9-10; Joel 3:9-16; Rev. 7:2-3).
Satan During the Wrath of God:
The Bible does not describe many of Satan's activities during the Wrath of God. Satan (the dragon) will gather the people of the earth at Armageddon to fight against God during the Wrath of God (Rev. 16:13-14).
Beast During the Wrath of God:
The Beast will suffer severe punishment during the Wrath of God (Rev. 16:10-11). The Beast will kill God's two witnesses between the sixth and seventh plagues (Rev. 11:7). The Beast, Satan, and the False Prophet will gather the people together at Armageddon to fight against God (Rev. 16:13-14).
Non-Christians During the Wrath of God:
Non-Christians will suffer punishment during the Wrath of God (Rom. 1:18; 2:5-9; Eph 5:3-7; Col. 3:5-6; Rev. 9:3-6; 16:9-11). They will blaspheme God (Rev. 16:9, 11, 21). They will refuse to repent for their evil (Rev. 9:20-21; 16:9, 11). They will be forced to give God the glory due Him (Rev. 11:13; Rom. 14:11; Phil. 2:10-11).
Events Following the Wrath of God:
Satan will be bound for 1000 years and the Millennium will begin (Rev. 20:1-4).
Scripture references for the Wrath of God:
Mat. 24:36-39; Luke 17:22-30; Rom. 1:18; Rom. 2:5-9; Rom. 5:9; Rom. 14:11; Eph. 5:3-7; Col. 3:5-6; 1 Thes. 1:9-10; 1 Thes. 5:1-9; 2 Thes. 1:6-10; Rev. 6:12-17; Rev. 7:1-17; Rev. 8:1-13; Rev. 9:1-21; Rev. 11:1-19; Rev. 14:7-12, 17-20; Rev. 15:1-21; Rev. 16:1-21; Rev. 18:4, 8; Rev. 19:11-21; Joel 1:15; Joel 2:1-11, 28-32; Joel 3:12-16; Zech. 14:1-15; Isa. 2:10-21; Isa. 13:1-16; Isa. 24:1-23; Isa. 26:20-21; Isa. 63:1-6; Ezek. 7:1-27
We conclude that the order of events is / Tribulation, Great Tribulation Rapture and Wrath of God as we have come out of Great tribulation" But are those that come out at this point at this time the are they the bridal believers or other believers who overcome therefore the tribulation saints.
This however seems to contradict the latter promises to the believers or his bride.
The position of who is his bride and who isn't is relative to his return and coming.
The great Tribulation is not the wrath of God. If so it puts these believers in the period described above and not in the wrath of God. This makes sense as his wrath is reserved for the wicked as explained above.
(Mat 24:30 MKJV) And then the sign of the Son of Man shall appear in the heavens. And then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory.
(Isa 26:21 MKJV) For behold, Jehovah comes out of His place to punish the people of the earth for their iniquity; the earth also shall reveal her blood, and shall no more cover her dead.
So at this stage does the Great tribulation precede the wrath of God. Does the wrath of God begin at the end of the tribulation.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
WE see that the sun, moon and constellation loose their light before the wrath of God.
The wrath of God begins with his coming.
Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Isa 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
Zep 1:15 That day [is] a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of waste ness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
In comparison to the troubles of the tribulation the wrath of god is a whole new and terrifying event. The degrees of judgement increase as time move forward with the total wrath of God being poured out at the end.
However there seems to be a contradiction in that the day of the Lord can not be a 24 hour period because when the sixth seal is broken the great Day of Gods wrath begins Rev 6:17.
After this we have the seventh seal broken which ushers in the trumpet judgements. Most happen quickly however the results would take time for instance in Rev 8:11 the water is poisoned and many men died. This may take a day or a few days I don't know but we do know that after the fifth trumpet those who have the mark of the beast are tormented by the stink of locusts like that of scorpions stings. They are tormented for 5 months.
It must be made clear that troubles are mutual with the period of the tribulation weather they are consequences, judgements or Gods wrath.
What is clear that there are people kept away, delivered , saved, raptured from this time and there are those who are not but are either killed or delivered at the end when The Lord comes with his wrath at the end.
Associated verses with this preservation.
(Rev 3:10 KJV) Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon the entire world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Obviously a period of time of temptation. A time of Satins influence full on. I would say while he is incarnate on earth.. but before the wrath of God
(Job 5:19) "In the 6th day I will preserve thee and the 7th I will deliver you."
(Luke 21:36) "Be always on watch and pray that you may be able to escape all that is coming upon the world that you will be able to stand before the son of man."
(Isa 26:20 KJV) Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be over past.
(Dan 12:1 MKJV) And at that time Michael shall stand up, the great ruler who stands for the sons of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation; until that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
(Mat 25:10 MKJV) And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came. And they who were ready went in with him to the marriage, and the door was shut.
(Jer 30:7 KJV) Alas! for that day [is] great, so that none [is] like it: it [is] even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
(Exo 12:22 MKJV) And you shall take a bunch of hyssop and dip in the blood in the bowl, and strike the lintel and the doorposts with the blood in the bowl. And none of you shall go out of the door of his house until the morning
Is this saying that the judgements of Egypt are similar to The wrath of God at the End. If so as promised we are kept away from that by the blood of Christ weather here or in heaven.
(Gen 7:16 MKJV) And they that entered, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him. And Jehovah shut him in.
We conclude that the order of events is Rapture / Tribulation, Great Tribulation and Wrath of God as we have come out of Great tribulation" Is it us or the tribulation saints
But then what do we do with this verse:
(Rev 7:9 KJV) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
These people come out of the Great Tribulation confirmed by the elders asking.
(Rev 7:14 MKJV) And I said to him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, These are the ones who came out of the great tribulation and have washed their robes, and have whitened them in the blood of the Lamb.
If so the lord must come twice. Once for his bride and once for the tribulation saints and to bring the wrath of God. If the multitude come out of the great tribulation there must be no more great tribulation left as he brings the wrath of God at that time. A question does he bring the wrath of God when he returns?
The answer seems to be no but yes when he comes and these appear to be two events. This is because he returns for his bride but comes at the time of his wrath.
They were kept safe.
Isa 49:10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
The great tribulation in context here is referring to the end times.
1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 1:10 (NKJV) and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. (Therefore taken out before his wrath).
It is clear here that we are not here for the wrath of God.
So the question is what is the trouble / indignation / Jacobs trouble /out of the great tribulation that we are to be kept away from??
The trouble spoken about can not be the wrath of God but the wrath of Satan or the tribulation time.
Are the troubles equal to the judgements. Certainly trouble for the unrepentant but not for the believer as they will not be here.
Contextually the times of trouble referred to are different to the wrath of God yet will also be part of it.
Psa 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.
Similar parallel to the being kept in the ark and stayed on the rock of Christ.
Psa 32:7 Thou [art] my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.
Psa 50:15 And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.
Pro 11:8 The righteous are delivered out of trouble, and the wicked cometh in his stead.
This must be the general status unless God allows the righteous to go through Trouble and it appears he does to some degree in the tribulation and possibly great tribulation. If so these verses become contradictory.
Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day [is] great, so that none [is] like it: it [is] even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
There appears only two scenarios that I can see.
1: The lord returns and removes the believers before he comes to bring his wrath. This must occur during the great tribulation period or at the very end.
Yet there is a time period of the judgements for those on earth.
2: The lord returns and removes the bride then brings his wrath after the great tribulation.
These would then leave the multitude (Rev 7 : 9MKJV) to be the ones saved after the rapture.
Obviously we need to relate the similarities and differences in both returns.
How he returns and what happens when he returns could be two different episodes.
They are because he returns for his bride but comes to bring his wrath.
These have come out of Great tribulation
Rev 9:4 MKJV) And they were commanded not to hurt the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God in their foreheads.
What is the tribulation.
It is the time of trouble. This period regarded as the last week of the seventieth week described in Denial.
There appears to be a contradiction in regards to the believers kept out of trouble. It says we will suffer tribulation. The problem lies in the meaning of the depiction of the words trouble and tribulation.
Within the context they mean different periods, times and events.
There are troubles and then there is The Trouble.
There is tribulation and then there is The Tribulation.
There is trouble and tribulations that Christians can Go through normatively speaking then there is The Trouble and The Tribulation period. The time or trouble. The time of tribulation and great tribulation.
The later is a specific period of time with a specific purpose.
In regards to the mark of the beast. Is our allegiance determined by being involved with the system economically. Or will it ultimately come to a place where the beast who heads up an economic system automatically mean allegiance to the beast by anyone participating in it/. Will must come to some part that the recognition of the mark affiliates partnership with him.. How that will be we will see. E.g. it will if he heads up this system or requires allegiance to him to be in the system.
Question. Will those who change and end up worshiping the true God in ReV .... after the resurrection of the two witnesses, have the mark of the beast on them. If so they choose possible martyrdom. Again it is some or a number of people who still yet do not have the mark. Those who have taken it are damned. Does the mark of the beast exist then? Is this in the period of Gods wrath.? Possibly and likely not. The mark of the beast can not be a compulsory item on everybody.
WE do know that once received that's it for those who take it. They are doomed. The more and more I see it this mark of the beast is heading to the end of the tribulation period
The clearest example that puts the return and coming of the lord and the removal of believers is to understand the Barley, wheat and grape harvests to understand the tribulation period.
The Barely Harvest.
The Barley harvests is the first harvest.
It is the first fruits of harvest time.
The first bit is Jesus the rest is the bride.
Barley thrown in air in evening into night when winds pick up after winnowing.
Barely is soft requiring soft refining like rolling and wind typical of the holy spirit.
Harvest celebrated by an all attendance feast where unleavened bread is eaten.
Begins with a trumpet blast.
Levin bread represents sin or false doctrine.
I believe the removal of these believers is the bride and are typified by the
Barely harvest and Barley. Due to the nature and celebration of this harvest, it has the hallmarks associated with aspects of the rapture or harpezo of the believers when we are gathered together.
It is possible because the removal of husks happens when the wind picks up during the late evening that the bride may have to endure some tribulation. The other possibility is that the night simply is a metaphor for tribulation rather than the tribulation period. The night is a metaphor for the tribulation period mainly understood but could be used this way in an aspect of degree of refinement.
In conclusion barely represents faithful Holy Spirit taught and changed lives.
Regarded as faithful to which the rapture is a blessing.
This would make sense as a loving God would provide an exception for those who are obedient to him. What would be the point of putting his beloved through literally hell on earth which to me reeks of a sadistically aspect of character. God is not this.
Unfortunately people do go through persecution and terrible things happen but this contextually is different to that being explained above.
The Wheat Harvests.
The wheat harvest comes after the barely harvest.
The wheat is a lot harder than barely. It's refining requires something much more substantial. It goes through a mechanism called a tribulim.
During this time leavened bread is eaten. Leaven representing sin.
The harvest feast is attended by specific people and not everyone.
Conclusion: The wheat is represented by stubborn, sinful' carnal Christians who are not faithful to the lord. These could well be represented by the tribulation saints. They require a severe aspect of testing or refinement and may well miss out on the blessing prescribed to those who are faithful.
The Harvests of Grapes.
This is the final harvest of the season.
These are cut off with a small sickle.
Placed in the wine press. Crushed and the juice flows.
Conclusion: The grapes are to do with the wicked and are sympolized by this.
There is no refinement but being crushed to release the juice.
Verses associated with these concepts are:
Rev 14: 16 – 20
And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle,
And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. (Rev 14:18 KJV)
Rev 14:18 KJV
(18) And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
(Rev 14:19 KJV)
And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast [it] into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred furlongs.
(Rev 14:20 KJV)
It is interesting how the New age people, spiritists etc all are aware of the scenario of Space craft waiting to take people away for the purpose of cleaning. Some describe the disappearances similar to Thessalonians. This is also proof of pretrib or part trib rapture acceptances. It only adds to the rapture and snatching away concepts I have put forward in my e-book.
The mystery of lightening.
"As the lightening comes from the east to the West so shall the coming of the son of man come."
To the ancients lightening coming from the East was a good thing but lightening to the West was a bad thing. So Christ comes for his people and what follows is bad, trouble, the tribulation.
The way lightening behaves is exactly the way the Lord returns for his bride.
Check out how ions behave and the return stroke similar to the return of the lord. See the "Events around the Rapture" by Perry Stone
Recently a Jewish boy died for 15minutes on the last tetrad red moon. He was taken to heaven and what he saw is very sobering. What he saw was relative to Israel and the middle east.
IN QUICK SUMMARY:
Nations going into battle against Isis.
Merging in the middle east.
Nuclear Warfare against Isis.
Nations end up fighting each other.
Obama in league with other nations attack Israel.
Christ comes .
Mount of Olive peels in two.
Gog is defeated my The Lord.
To see this in detail look on the web.
Simply "Jewish boy Death Red moon."
Something happens in the Middle East that triggers a world war. What the boy saw and what she saw I believe is the same thing.
What he sees combines with the prophecy from the 90 year old Norwegian woman in my previous chapters in the ebook. She also can be found on the "web" The removal of the Bride could happen in the time of when the nations together are attacking Isis and our removal could just preceding the nations tuning on each other. This makes perfect sense. As at that time millions end up dying.
See her vision of the forth wave of events.
: when evil reaches a point
; Bride removed
: 3rd World War.
The truce achieved probably by Obama or who ever, may very well be the peace agreement described in Denial by the man of perdition.
One can see how when a world is left to it's own devices the acts of terrorism only becomes normative. Remove that which is Godly and one would see a world spiralling into evil. A whole level of insensitivity, chaos, hardness , ushers in a time of hell on earth.
In all this "pray always that we will be ready for his return which could be sooner than we thing":
With so much deception in respect to the return of the lord, the times we live in, and basically end time issues, there is a time now for more of the truth to be given.
The subject is fround on by most Christians. It is a subject unfortunately that can not be ignored as this in itself will be a tool of deception in the last days. the fact is UFO's do exist. Why, how, and what for. Find out why in my E Book you will be supprised.
It has been very interesting with regards to how many people are having visitations from the Lord in regards to his coming. he seems to be telling them all that he is coming very soon and sooner than we expect. Quite sobering. He is warning people tohave him a centre of their lives.
It has been very interesting with regards to how many people are having visitations from the Lord in regards to his coming. he seems to be telling them all that he is coming very soon and sooner than we expect. Quite sobering. He is warning people tohave him a centre of their lives.
So I believe it's time to start writing as it is now the time to bring together the things the lord has shown me. Shown me that this is what I will do for the unfolding of the plan in my life for his glory and his purposes. A plan he showed me I swear at the beginning of dawn and has taken forever to be prepared for. Well it seems like it. Simply the time it takes a tear drop to hit the floor. I will start at the beginning for those who want the beginning of my life and how I have come to be doing what I am doing now. Beyond the twinkle in my fathers eye to the place where my mother said to the Lord ." if it's a boy he's yours". Given a name , Richard Francis Draine also put me in a light that conjusive to the name. Richard means brave king, Francis well I don't know but I do remember Saint Francis of Assisi and Draine means a channel for water. Water is one of the typological liquids that typifies the Holy Spirit. Names are very important. I'm not blowing my own trumpet it's just that what it means. I certainly don't feel like it not that I am into nostic mysticism.
When I look back at my life and I see that the lord has kept that promise. Of course that has required the Lords hand to intervene beyond my ideologies or plans. What's that verse "A man has his plans but the Lord orders his steps" (Prbs 16. 14 ) check)? or something like that. The times where I have been determined to go my own way and do things contrary to his will. You get to a place eventually where enough of you is dead enough for the Lord to begin using you more and more. A vessel of honour for the lords use. What's my life anyway. I don't own it and what can I conceivably do outside his will that is going to benefit me when the source of all life and everything pertaining to the aspects of it come from him and are in him. 'The kingdom of God is within you' it certainly is when you invite him into your heart.
From the moment I invited him into my life wisdom beckoned me to say" no matter the cost your will be done". It has to be that it's only logical. I never estimated the sufferings I would go through.
I had a wonderful childhood I suppose having parents that were from England gave them a tenacity to explore the new land. Dad would often take us on a weekend drive of exploration, climbing hills, swimming in rivers and gorges became the norm. Picnics here and there gave me an appreciation of the beauty of this country. That beauty has engrained in me some aspect of the glory of God.
At times I swear I could feel the angels around me. I still do, and the still voice of God has spoken to me in the clefts of the rocks. High up in the mountain passes his name has echoed off the peaks. The depth of those experiences has permanently marred me. Growing up in the country and moving to the city had a big influence on me, another land to explore. Schools, constant house shifts different neighbourhoods, infighting of my parents seemed to add to the confusion of that alien world. The city, it took me quite a while to get used to it and being young, naive and innocent led me to all kinds of distractions.
My mother was a catholic and at least that served to cause me to question aspects of theology even at the young age I was. Too many arguments with the priest led me to being an unwelcome visitor. Quite frankly the services got more and more boring, understandably.
Spending so much time in the country gave me an energy and innocence that seemed to be too much in the city. I saw things innocently, and simply consequently ending me in a lot of, undeserved trouble and attention. That shock threw me in a lot of ways. The freedom I new suddenly became restrained somewhat. Take my boldness and shyness left me searching for love and answers. Due to this nature and possibly looks being picked on or treated as a second rate citizen gave cause to throw myself into the deep end of a lot of experiences..
My father seemed to have issues of how to love a son that was a bit of a hand full. I never could please him or so it seemed. But overall he was a good dad and a hard worker. A communications officer during the war and carried those skills in Radio and T.V ending up as properties master for TV2 Christchurch New Zealand.
My parents began fighting a lot,and this upheaval provided an unhappiness in my life as any child or teenager needs a stable environment to grow up in. The way parents should be who know the lord. My father died shortly after when I was the age of 15. It all resulted in a void that needed to be filled and led me to look for the truth. I had respect for the lord but and the pain drove me to seek him . Somehow I ended up in a spirit filled church in Lyttelton and ended up being properly baptised. It was prophesied then that I was never to dowt that the lord was with me even through the red and troubled seas and times I would go through. That eventually I must go into new lands clothed in the spirit of God's wine.
Man how true that's been. After that Satan tried his best to destroy my life. I ended up down the wrong path, and a web of lies began to infiltrate my thinking. The same old questions that new age thinkers think or simply the counterfeit version of many of the Christian values and facts.
Of course he brings the necessary agents to help the cause of deception. But that can really only happen if God allows it especially as a Christian. The prodigal son and the allowance of that to reveal his love and grace. As a consequence going through those things taught me many things. It just took a lot of healing and cleaning at the end of it all. The cleansing process will continue
I went to university and got a B.Sc in geology of which I never used and only ended up challenging the establishment over issues such as weather time was a constant or not and things like the unanswered questions of vertical tree trunk fossils between the horizontal coal seems. As you can image that stuff does not go well with the establishment and persecution became the norm. I often had to take back answer sheets and get the credits that had been over looked. I thought scientists looked at the truth not avoiding it. It was after that time I got into the hippy thing and tried to ride the cosmic trial.
I got to the stage where a friend of mine said that Jesus was here that he had returned and was actually Guru Mirarji. The founder of the divine light movement. It was not long before I was enlisted as a Premi and was given the secrets to God's consciousness. Simply for meditative technics involving sight, sound, taste and touch. Of course they would be the wrong version of them. So different when the holy spirit is involved. Its him then and not us and he will always point to our king our true Lord Jesus Christ.
It wasn't long that I began seeing some things that didn't add up. Parties, prostitutes, drugs if your happy then that's ok, sounds familiar? I always remember one Sunday seeing a Christian family crossing the street and seeing how happy they were. They had a wholeness and a glowand I thought there s nothing wrong with these people. The so called enlightened ones would have you believe that Christians were ignorant and stupid. In coming back to the lord I remember staying in Cust with a biker friend of mine who at the same time came back to the Lord. I remember reading about the Hidden secrets of the rainbowand how entering the age of aquarious will result in some cosmic frequency that only the most evolved and enlightened would exist in. Anyone not at that level will simply disappear. That is a great counterfeit for the rapture and the deception is worse when you get into what these guys are into.The new agers , mediums , psychics spiritualists etc all are being deluded into the counterfeit plan of Satan's with the result of the false messiah , the avator the world saviour , so people will be led to believe.They believe us christains are dumb and ignorant. But that is a judgement in it's self. A deception that will come on the whole world in the last days.
After a while premies were required to go up and see guru Maraji in Auckland once a year. It was strange because I always had a seat either side of me and wondered why. Even then the lord who I never denied but who I got abit well a great bit confused over was still deep in my life just allowing me to go through things. I think these premmies could sense that I was'nt part of the clanand that's why the seats were left empty beside me. Every where else was full. Another thing the guru always seemed to be snarling at me. We had darshan of which all went by and kissed the feet of the guru. Well when I DID THAT all I got was a snarl and a pissed off look and I though well if your meant to be the Christ you can stick it mate. The most obsurd thing I heard listening to this guy speak was about a guy who had committed suicide by jumping off a building. . He was only concerned that this guy was happy on the way down and that he could have been. Pretty crazy, the admiration was fast waning.
Back in Christchurch I became somewhat isolated and having grandeur ideas of becoming famous as an artist. Living in commercial buildings. It was then I started to well should I say satan put people in my way to further delude me. Mediums began speaking in my life. The demons speaking through them pretending to be enlightened ones, even our Lord.
They recommendended that I go to India and train in the ashrams and become God conscious. That was the leading I needed and sold every thing, what little I had, and hitchhiked to Hamilton. I thought I would say goodbye to a friend before I shot over seas to which when I think about it I don,t know how as I had no money . Behind the scenes my mother was ernastly praying for me in her home group. As soon as I met Allen he sat me down said we had been barking at the wrong tree. That Jesus had stood at the end of his bed and revealed who this guru Maraji was. A general of satan. Of course how had I not seen that. I repented on the spot and felt this tangible clunk in my spirit that put me back in the centre of the universe, that put me back home. Man did it feel like it. I felt the Holy Spirit pouring over me like a stream. He was beautiful.. There was thunder and lightening in the sky to which I thought was quite fitting for the occasion.
Boy I felt better. It took a period of time to be cleaned from all that which had happened in the past. It took some real breaking timesbut I had to go through them. You are where you are and that's the reality. There was quite a lot of mental healing and spiritual healing. I ended up at friends who being older than me took me under his wing for a while. It was a good and hard time in Cust but quietly beautiful and a great place for healing. The good old country life. Mark would take me in the mountainsand his friendship still lasts to this day. He eventually got married to the gal of his dreamsand they are a blessed couple who help many people.
I ended up down Southbridge for a number of months helping on a farm and was accepted into a family. It was a work for your lodgings situation and spent many isolated times where I pressed into the Lord. I would pop up to Cust, Rangiora to a friend who I stayed at for a while. Going from north Canterbury to mid Canterbury and back again staying at different friends places. I went to the Leeston Church and the New Life Church at various stages. It was in this time that I ended up in YWAM Wellington. It was a great time and the family, Christian teaching, community living in the city gave more healing and blessing in my life eventually heading off to Fiji during the Coo over there when Mr Rambuka was in power. The lord had said that I would be going to the islands to preach his word. I thought it would be with some volunteer organisation but happened through Youth With A Mission.
We, the group of us who went there from the Discipleship training course stayed with an indian family near Nadi. They owned a sugar cane farm. That was our baseand from there we would reach out to the villages and people who were going through the drought in the land. Many of the Indian people were a bit fearful of the situation in the land as cultreal differences and the right of the Fijian peoples autonomy over their land.
We witnessed and evangelised many of the Indian people around that countryside. The annointing was on our livesand you could discern who was open to listen and who was'nt even. We even new what houses were open and those that weren't. I new this because I tried it out. Was this my discernment or the Holy spirit guiding me, probably both. I remember walking over to a group of Indian cane cutters who had stopped for lunch. I walked over to two guys who were standing and gave them some tracks in their own language. They laughed at me probably knowing what I was about snatched the tracks out of my hand and mocking started to read then loudly and to the whole crowd. About the third line I saw the Lords prescience descend on them and a quite hush covered the crowd. They continued readingand I left them confident that my job had been done.
It was a great six weeks and a blessing all round. On arrival back in Christchurch I was open bait for Satan again. Coming from friends, prayer, a covering of protection to suddenly being on my own again was horrible. If that was a taste of heaven that I just came out I sure can't wait till the true heaven. I wonder what Jesus felt like coming herebut I can't really conceive that. I'd fallen in love with one of the Girls on the team and she also lived in Christchurch. The confident, spiritually mature guy I left back in Fiji and had nothing to offer when I came back but my insecurities. She was older than me and soon this boy was left by himself.
I went back to YWAM and did a school of missions. Helped support the YWAM base before hand as support staff and did the school of missions. This was okand again valuable lessons occurred in my life. We ended up in Featherston missionary college and did more training. I was too immature and my attitudes were wrong and therefore never went on the outreach to Bali.
What was going on? Past issues were surfacing, insecurities, etc. I can't even remember the order of how things went in those days. It all seems a bit of a blur around that time. That's what drugs and deception does.
I came back to a family and continued working there for a while until I was accused of blaspheming the Holy spirit which really sent shivers down my spine and if that ws the case realised there was no point of being a live or just trying to have a much fun before the fateful day. Being accused of such an unpardonal seen was a very heavy seen to go through and I hitch hiked to Hokitika to visit the Christian people I new. The one s who brought my father to the lord. I was picked up by some Christian who told me some pretty amazing stories that had happened in their own lives and I still wonder if they are true today. I was then dropped off at Springfield and shortly picked up by the very daughter of the people I was going to. None of that had been prearranged.. It was such as relief to know that I had not Blasphemed the Holy Spirit and that my very concern that I had was absolute proof that I had not.
So on my return back to this family I basically told him he was wrong and where to go. I found a house to rent in Coopers lagoon and came to some big dealings in my life with God.
It was a lonely but beautiful time. I clocked up many hours on the shingle road to the beach constantly crying out to the lord for release of the torment of the maze I was in my head. Even in the middle of nowhere he provided a Christian family that I would occasionally call round to keep my sanity. The nine long months of that dessert experience. It was needed though. I built a kiln out there, and the kiln had been in preparation for me. The pots I had made in those months were a reflection of me, and when It came to firing them it was to result in one of the most intense times in my life that left me absolutely shocked and breathless.
The Lord told me that I was really firing myself and not the pots. He told me that not to worry that I would get through the firing and have just enough fuel to finish it. After twenty two hours of firing the kiln and when the last cone had bent over I shut the kiln down. Well I didn't need to really I ran out of fuel and as the lords said it was enough to finish the Firing. I went into the house exhausted. Went to church that morning and came back. Standing in the lounge the floor suddenly disappeared and I was looking down a bottomless pit. Not only that I started falling into this abyss. I was so shocked I wanted to cry out but my vocal chords had frozen. It was then that every conceivable thing of darkness was trying to pull me in and eventually the only thing I could do was whisper the name of Jesus. Immediately I felt him catch me in his hand and there I have been ever since. He said "now you are in my hand and there you will always be." He chose this way to bring me out of the maze my head was in. You see I was all in my head. When I went through that I was in my heart. At last the striving and restless was gone. I was prepared to stay there as long as the Lord wanted me there and finally was contented for the first time in years.
That evening I went back to church and the pastor pointed his finger at me and said Richard you are like a pot that's just been dropped. Man that was right. One thing I new was God will speak through anything to tell you. It was shortly after that that the pastor again spoke to me and said that I will not be round much longer and that the lord will release me to go from the area. Three weeks later I was gone.
It was then That I ended up in north Canterbury again and stayed with the Pastor of The Rangiora New Life. From there I worked on the orchards. I moved back and forward from Belfast to North Canterbury a number of times. I ended up in the central Christchurch living in commercial buildings. Somewhere along the journey I ended up at the New Life Majestic house. From there I moved out to a friends place in Rolleston where I worked on the orchard there.
Some deep searching and more heavy dealings from God led me to be left on the floor prostrate on more than one occasion. I couldn't do anything but that until the power of God lifted me up again and then I could walk around.
It seemed that my time on the orchards seemed to be Gods dealing times with me. North Canterbury nearly everyday I would be crying. So many tears I must have cried a near forty four gallon full. When the Lord is on your case. When you have a specific calling the lord can break you, crush you till the vessel become so broken that only he can resurrect you. When that happens then he can use you. This has happened up till now. It was later in going back to Wellington when I did to do my School of Missions. I never went on the outreach and game back to Christchurch and ended up living in a studio. Ended up in and out of many places of stay.
Being able to get a way with new found friends into the mountains always gave relief and joy to my life. These heavenly trips leave a residue in your life that gives some small appreciation of what heaven has in store. We live in a beautiful land,and the privilege of being born here has helped develop my character. From time to time when I needed to get away from every thing I would just go take the sleeping bag and sleep by the river. It seems when one has a calling on ones life these things are important to the probing of the inner soul. It never leaves you. The quiet can be so loud some times that you miss it's eternal hug that reminds you there is nothing really in this world that can satisfy that place other than the presence of the lord. Everything else is a distraction.
As you get older you can waste a lot of time in things that have no heavenly value. If you are serious with the Lord you end up in a place that you can not go back. You can not keep doing things detrimental to his will. You are either overcoming the world or being overcome by it. That is your choice but how crazy to persist in sin. It can make you crazy. In fact sin makes you crazy after a time. As the lord impresses on our hearts the question of what one is really doing here or what one want's in his or her life it all boils down to our Lord our saviour our most incredible king of the universe. If all joy, love, peace, wisdom etc comes from him what on earth can we possibly achieve by our own attempts. Why do we do anything, what for and what's it for. What are we trying to achieve anyway. The very things we strive for he is the source of it all for us who choose life. Therefore everything we do is for his glory.
The Lord has had to deal with me severely and have had wept many times still. Having an inferiority complexion and needing acceptance and love drove me into many silly situations. The consequences having emotional instability,driven behaviours,a life all over the place. God will deal with you if you mean business. A vessel of honour can be broken many times and fired. Honour requires holiness. I am certainly not condoning being holy. I maybe of some use now only god knows.
I have now been placed in a situation where probably due to the events that are happening before my eyes and the propensity of eschatological issues ignored or misunderstood I am not only compelled to speak but required by the lord in obedience to bring forth the truth of this subject. The ignorance and deception perpetrated by those due to intension or laziness cannot be left to lie. We live in a time where more than ever before Satan would love this subject to be ignored. He want's people a sleep not awake. Our king Jesus beckons to his beloved who needs to be ready for his marriage and therefore sends his teachers to bring the truth about this matter.
When you have pastors who don't advertise about speakers who come to this city because they are afraid that the people will end up fearful then we indeed have a serious problem in our churches. It speaks much. One they are not listening to the Holy Spirit. They have their own agendas. Harlings is not shepherds, and wolves will devour. I have been to many churches where to even raise such an issue is looked on as abnormal worse a disturber of the peace." Jesus clearly says when you see these things begin to happen then look up for your redemptions draws neigh." People don't even know what to look for. People don't even understand the fact that there is not just one coming but two let alone why.
When one is not given a chance to reason the misunderstandings then those who don't allow are being deceived. The Holy Spirit prompts us who are obedient to share. If that is stopped the judgement of God will be imminent. WE are living in a time where more than ever this subject is becoming so important. People are asking more and more questions, and when pastors, elders, teachers etc can't even understand the meat of Gods word how will hey know anything in regards to eschatological matters. The messianic Jews do but when it comes to our protestant understanding we fall well short and logically so.
My Job is to prepare and inform people of these matters. I don't come from a theological background only what the Lord shows me. The Pharisees condemned Jesus because he was not brought up as they were. Those who were of the lord listened because what he said was true. Anybody who has a good heart, who is genuine and loves the truth will listen to a vessel that the lord will use regardless of his or her the background.
In the past I have had several prophecies in relation to this ministry.
The first was when I was baptised. "...though must go into new lands clothed in the spirit of Gods wine."
The second was through YWAM . "Will be given arms to bend back bows of Brass'.
That you will be at the front of the army to fight."
The third when I walked into a large church and instantly was singled out by the speaker and told that I will be going into many nations and will do great things.
I have had a number of prophecies similar to this.
A specific prophecy I remember was when I had died to this ministry.
I could not be bothered any more as no one could be bothered with me. As I walked out of the church the next day a visiting speaker from India spun round while talking to the pastor and told me "do not to die to the thing you have just died to. To continue studying and writing. That one day you would be speaking to hundreds of people not only here but overseas"
I'm just being honest with what has been said the rest is up to you and the Holy Spirit.
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The way events will end will be as it was t the beginning. The Jews see history as a loaf of bread. The beginning will look like the end. What was it like at the beginning? We are given history and examples. Lawlessness, monsters, strange phenomena, alienation on a genetical scale, obvious demonistation and manifestation, spiritual and tribalism are a few of the aspects of that time.
The question is "How long since the beginning and the golden age". In other words till the middle of the loaf of bread. Does the time from the beginning to the middle of the loaf have any equality to the middle to the end? Will it be the same time period.
Not necessarily. Once the spirit of God is removed, or evil is given the chance to have it's way the demoralisation, degeneration and down word degregation of mans state of being can happen very quickly.
Films like "The Road" and "Mad Max" typify the slide into chaos. this however to me is post raptureal and is not the environment that the bride is taken out of. Those events belong to the very end and is the worst time of the tribulational period..even in this time has the antichrist lost that much control or does he turn a blind eye to te evil arround him.
The son of man coming at the end of the age to rule on the earth has nothing to do with the return for his bride with in reason. The bride returns with him at this event.
The return of the Lord for his bride results in his judgement. The time before the rescue of Noah coincides with the rescue of his bride.
Again the main emphasis of this script is to press the point that a 4000yr period can be reversed and degrade over a few years given the right conditions. The son of man coming at the end of the age to rule on the earth has nothing to do with the return for his Bride. His Bride returns with him at this event.
To judge the timing of the return of the Lord using an equalibrium the way a loaf of Bread is to the same extent of time can be wrong. An equal volume of loaf may not be an equal time period as we are looking at the way events will be end up. The process of time may not represent the equality of proportionality in volume of a loaf of bread or say a book shelf.
Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you.